ST KILDA may yet feel the pain of missing two premiership points in Friday night's draw with the Bulldogs after holding sway in the game for most of the night. Those missing points may yet be telling in whether the club makes the eight.

More immediately, however, the players suffered the pain of that draw and the hand their undisciplined players had in it.

A 6am training session with a dip in Brighton baths yesterday was punishment not for the result but for a range of incidents that exposed a lack of discipline among the group.

Ross Lyon warned after Friday night's deflating draw that he was unhappy with the players' discipline in giving away 50-metre penalties and free kicks and forcing their own free kicks to be reversed.

"It was a bit of variety in the training," Saints football manager Ken Sheldon said, explaining the early morning start.

The Saints' more immediate concerns centre on the fitness of Luke Ball, who withdrew from last Friday night's game with a tight adductor. Sheldon said he expected Ball to be fit for this week's game against Sydney.

The draw means St Kilda can probably not afford to drop one of its challenging final four matches against the Swans in Sydney, Fremantle and West Coast at Telstra Dome and Richmond at the MCG.