Carlton was pessimistic about a quick resolution to their trade stand-off with West Coast over Chris Judd, entering today's opening round of official negotiations.

All 16 AFL clubs are meeting at Telstra Dome today for face-to-face discussions, with Friday at 2pm (AEST) the deadline for any deals to be done.

With departing Eagles skipper Judd having declared his desire to join the Blues, a deal between those two clubs is the most eagerly awaited, particularly as it could impinge on other prospective trades.

But Carlton chief executive Greg Swann doubted they would reach an immediate agreement.

"We'll see how we go, it's the first day today, nothing will happen today," Swann said.

West Coast officials refused to comment as they entered today's negotiations, but they have been adamant they want at least the Blues' No.1 pick in the national draft in return for Judd, while Carlton has been equally steadfast in refusing to offer that up.

If the two clubs do not reach an agreement by Friday's deadline, Judd could nominate for the pre-season draft, where Richmond has the No.1 pick ahead of Carlton.

But Richmond football director Greg Miller said the Tigers' chances of picking up the superstar for nothing in that draft were "very doubtful", saying history suggested the Eagles and Blues would eventually come to terms.

He also dismissed speculation that the Tigers would do a deal with Carlton and allow Judd to slip through to the Blues in the pre-season draft, saying that idea was probably suggested purely as a bargaining tactic by Carlton.

"I think that's just leverage that they can use through the media and they haven't even spoken to us, it's very doubtful," Miller said.

Meanwhile, Miller said the Tigers were interested in young Geelong ruckman Mark Blake, who was dropped by the Cats ahead of their grand final win over Port Adelaide, after playing 22 games for the season.

"We haven't spoken to (Blake's manager) Anthony McConville as yet, but we certainly will chase that up," Miller said.

Blake is one of several ruckmen expected to be a subject of negotiation, with the Western Bulldogs confident of snaring Adelaide's Ben Hudson and Melbourne expected to recruit Crows' youngster John Meesen.

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